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Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:01:00 -
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The only thing that really makes me nervous is the fact, that the 'victim' is - at least as stated by himself - a flight controller. From a frequent flier point of view, I sincerely hope he is in reality working in a profession that is not so much based on the ability to stay calm, make wise decisions - especially under pressure - and is always able to distinguish between facts and imagination.
However, if his statement is true and this event would make him reconsider his professional career and switch to something that has a significant lower chance to endager the lifes of real people, than Ero1 would have potentially saved the lifes of hundreds. |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:20:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Jerome Gouillot wrote:The only thing that really makes me nervous is the fact, that the 'victim' is - at least as stated by himself - a flight controller. Actually I think the choice he made towards the end of the recording to take the day off work (might have been night, I don't know) shows he's probably exactly the type of person who should be an ATC. He clearly made a smart and responsible choice, recognising that he wasn't prepared for the responsibilities so soon after exploding. That's the type of responsible thinking, with a bigger view in mind, that I hope all ATCs have after an emotional meltdown.
I am not willing to lower my expectations to that level - he should have considered that before entering a situation that had the potential to harm his ability to do his job. This is like praising a school bus driver who was drinking the whole night as a responsible person for not coming to work while the real reason might have been that he was too drunk to find the door of his bedroom. |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:[quote=Josef Djugashvilis]There is a lot of talk about how the mark could have stopped the whole thing at any point.
Sohkar is a grown man. Physically yes. But mentally? I'm going to use bright letters here. if Sohkar is mentally incapable of giving consent or understanding his actions, he should not be playing a game like EVE in the 1st place.
And not control airtraffic, at least please not planes that I am using ... |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:29:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Jerome Gouillot wrote:And not control airtraffic, at least please not planes that I am using ... He didn't say he was an ATC, he said he 'controls planes'. 'Plane Controller' is a common profession among those trying to make up professions on the spot.
Sir, thank you so much for restoring faith in public air transport. |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:58:00 -
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Tor Norman wrote:Boomtown Jones wrote:Nobody who takes this issue seriously should still be posting in this thread, it's all just feeding the trolls. Send your thoughts to the devs and be done with it.
As a general rule if an argument on the internet does not make any sense it is often not worth responding to it. Isn't that kinda what we're doing? The forum has been heavily moderated on this issue except for this threadnaught. It's abundantly clear they're giving us a wide berth to allow us to vent our concerns nad get an honest an opinion from the community as possible. Frankly, I think this is an incredibly smart move on their part.
It might as well possible that they are avoiding risking their mental health by reading some of those dangerous posts. I wish I had ... |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:29:00 -
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lollerwaffle wrote:I Riven I wrote:If I ask my daughter to sing and I give her a donut, but in the end I dont give here anything.
Is this mental abuse? Should I go to jail because of it?
Tell me about my wrong doings please. That is torture, you're a bad person and should feel bad.
I would call it education. If Sokhars mom had done this to him when he was a little boy - repeatedly if needed - this thread would most likely not exist |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:39:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:lollerwaffle wrote:[quote=Prince Kobol][quote=lollerwaffle] Then why does he not comment on the vile language and RL death threats uttered by the 'victim'? (...) I have been called a scouse ******* a number of times, does that mean the person has a hatred of scouses or did they call me that because I am actually scouse? The answer is there is no way of telling, especially the heat of the moment. It usually something which shows overtime by a person actions.
Sir, I apologise for english being not even my second language. You are not sure whether or not you are a beef skew? I'd suggest you take a bite. Could be lamb as well ...
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Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:13:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:What would happen to the world if 'free speech' laws only applied to polite speech, and not the intolerant or vile speech? Who would then decide what is hateful speech, and not protected? Who would then protect your speech, on that day years later when someone determines your words are hateful to them?
EvE the 'sandbox' must be based on the same principles. It is a sandbox, or not. There is no middle ground between food and poison, just poisoned food. tldr; CCP must be very careful about coming between two players in any scenario, at risk of crushing what the sandbox stands for.
Harassment or 'bullying' as previously defined by CCP, is when a player continuously or on an ongoing basis messes with another player, without asset acquisition being their core driver.
If we look to that precedent, Erotica1 neither continuously nor on an ongoing basis messed with Sohkar, for it was a single time event with Sohkar, and Erotica1's goals were clearly asset acquisition at their core. By CCP's own precedent this was thus not harassment nor bullying, it was the sandbox, working as intended.
Now while you may denounce the way Erotica1 did what he did, you however can NOT denounce his right to do it, or you might as well denounce the sandbox, freedom of speech and the notion of freedom itself.
Why is It always liberal pansies that have to silence or jail those they disagree with in the real world, rather than win their arguments by engaging directly with the person they wish to neuter, and instead convince them? That is evil. That is Stalinism. That is today's liberal pansification in real life injecting itself into a GAME with cries to 'ban Erotica1!'...
What's missing from this thread is that Sohkar was a DUNCE. He allowed himself to be scammed, then doubled down on stupid by allowing himself to be made a fool of, driven by his personal greed and attempts to acquire quick money (ISK). Sohkar should be THANKING Erotica1 for the valuable real-life lesson he was just taught! Surely the first time he goes to nagotiate a car loan, mortgage or cellphone contract -- he will be more likely to look at the fine print and not get screwed thanks to Erotica1?
THAT is the lesson of HTFU you pansies never seem to get, that HTFU is GOOD FOR YOU. Bubble wrap a dunce or carebear, and you neuter him in real life I say. Want to know why kids are leaving their parents homes at older and older ages? Just look in the f#$king mirror you fail-enabling PANSIES!
F#)($#!
+1 - I would recommend to use this post for the next CCP marketing campaign. |

Jerome Gouillot
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:28:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake 
This is a sad day for EvE. I do not care whether Erotica1 biomasses or not, but the sandbox got one more hole. Who will be next ? |

Jerome Gouillot
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:49:00 -
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Jerome Gouillot wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake  This is a sad day for EvE. I do not care whether Erotica1 biomasses or not, but the sandbox got one more hole. Who will be next ?
I have to correct myself - for me this is in fact a good day. I just got a new direction for my gameplay: I did already do so many things that I did not do or would never do in real life - i was an industrialist, pirate, soldier, trader, scammer, explorer, mass murderer, slaver, (space) truck driver ... But now i gonna buy a new toon and make him a pharisaic political correct moralist that will urge the whole universe to live within his own set of morale.
There are so many of you in this thread that can help me to understand how i have to think and act to make this true. Please advise! What does it take to train self-righteousness V ? |
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